13 comments

  • atombender 13 hours ago ago

    Hi, Erik! Nice to see this on the HN front page.

    Have you considered using this as a test bed to explore alternative architectures and approaches? The classical Volcano architecture used here has been established for many decades, and it could be fun exercise to see what can be done to improve on it, while remaining true to the original goal of having something that's purely for educational purposes.

    • erikgrinaker 6 hours ago ago

      Hi Alex!

      I quite like the Volcano model, it has a certain elegance to it. :) With vectorization and distribution you can get pretty far with it.

      For my next real project, I want to build something based on the Accord consensus protocol from Cassandra: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/188...

      It’s the first productionization of leaderless consensus protocols. It merges strict serializable transactions into the consensus layer (in 1RTT on the fast path), and has sharding built-in including cross-shard transactions.

      It doesn’t support interactive transactions though, so it’s not a drop-in for SQL systems (but I don’t think they are suitable in modern systems anyway, given the latency cost). And it requires quorum reads, since it can’t use leader leases (for obvious reasons), so reads may end up being too slow for many georeplicated setups. But it’s a neat design.

  • mdaniel 10 hours ago ago

    There were quite a few interesting projects linked to in the prior comment threads from 2021 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27874992

  • fabianlindfors 12 hours ago ago

    Super cool project and the code is delightfully readable as well!

    I had the pleasure of having Erik advise me for my thesis on distributed databases a few years ago. I’m very lucky to have had the chance to tap into his knowledge on all things distributed systems. On top of being super knowledgeable he’s also a terrific teacher!

    • erikgrinaker 6 hours ago ago

      Thanks for the kind words, Fabian — it was fun working together on your thesis!

  • GeorgeCurtis 10 hours ago ago

    Really cool project, your code is beautifully neat and commented. I'm also building a Rust DB so was really nice reading through yours

  • dev_l1x_be 4 hours ago ago

    Is there a way to use this as a simple key value store without sql?

    • nextaccountic 4 hours ago ago

      Maybe consider sled? https://github.com/spacejam/sled

      It's been abandoned for some years, the author was working on a new engine for it and in the last 5 days they started working again on sled proper. However, it's pretty good the way it is (the 0.34.7 release from 2021 https://crates.io/crates/sled), despite the beta warnings

      More info here https://dbdb.io/db/sled

      (Note, non affiliated to the author, just liked the project)

    • erikgrinaker 4 hours ago ago

      It already uses a key/value store for on-disk storage, but you’ll have to write the server API and client yourself, along with a Raft state machine layer. It’s not a big lift though, and could make a fun weekend project.

  • wood_spirit 4 hours ago ago

    Simple question but is this OLAP or OLTP?

  • mehulashah 8 hours ago ago

    Love it, though if it’s sufficiently instructive, I bet it will go beyond education.