They are vitamin C to the mixture, which is actually what is developing the film. There's a commercial developer (Xtol) made by Kodak which is I believe vitamin C based, and it's a very good developer.
It would be interesting to know if the caffeine in the red bull is making a significant contribution I guess, otherwise the jagerbomb isn't really doing that much I think.
it's unfortunate that you can develop film even with something like coffee, but for the fixing step there aren't any similarly "not purely chemical" options
You really shouldn't. The colloidal silver probably isn't that harmful in small quantities, Jäger's just herbs, but there's some really nasty chemicals in those energy drinks.
The absolute lack of self awareness, putting the danger on the energy drinks when Jägermeister contains something infinitely more dangerous than anything Red bull will ever put into their drinks.
Did you forget that alcohol is a drug, and a dangerous and destructive one at that?
That's usually my go-to when discussing supposedly dangerous chemicals.
There are some controversies regarding, for example: glyphosate, aspartame, food preservatives, microplastics, etc... For all of them you are going to find studies showing some toxicity, usually at doses much higher than what we consume, and people get up in arms about them. But then, look at alcohol, where toxicity is proven without a doubt, it is also a group 1 carcinogen, the highest rating, and we drink it as if it was nothing. It puts things into perspective.
I am not saying that it is good to have glyphosate or microplastics in your food, and the problem goes beyond toxicity, but the idea is that if you worry about your health by consuming things that are deemed safe to eat by the health authorities and you are still drinking alcohol, maybe that you should get your priorities straight.
I am not saying "don't drink alcohol". In moderation, it is no that bad, but then, you probably shouldn't worry too much about the other stuff. Of course, you may refuse to support, say, plastic packaging, and it is a worthy thing to do, but it is more about politics than personal health.
Aside from it indeed sometimes being true, grow a sense of humor, and calm the puritanical fear mongering a bit. Hundreds of millions of people spend their completely normal, normal-length lives occasionally drinking, socially lubricating themselves and enjoying a gathering with others and a few drinks without ever turning into raging alcoholics or imminent cases of cirrhosis, liver cancer and kidney failure. Billions of people have also done it across the centuries only to live lives of stunningly normal length and healthfulness too. Sometimes the emotional value of enjoying minor pleasures in life, and helping along your social life, balances out to being more healthy than what you'd get by fanatically screening all consumed things for all possible chemical dangers.
Don't get me wrong: I am not blaming anyone for liking alcohol, I have plenty of wine and various liquors, and it's a fun indulgence.
There is no "used wisely" with alcohol. It is destructive from the first drop to the last. It is about one of the worst things you could put in your body. Alcohol gets a free pass because it's socially acceptable, but it is, objectively, dangerous, and every single doctor and research in the world agrees with that.
>every single doctor and research in the world agrees with that.
Not at all the case. There's no shortage of medical debate on the dangers of alcohol and how bad they are. You're either lying or didn't bother to do a 5 minute internet search.
>It is about one of the worst things you could put in your body.
Really now? Since "worst" by definition implies being at or near the top of some ranking of terrible things, You'd rate ethanol in all its blends as near or above all the literally dozens of elemental and untold thousands of chemical substances that you could put into your body (even in very minute quantities) to die within minutes to seconds of doing it even once?
They are vitamin C to the mixture, which is actually what is developing the film. There's a commercial developer (Xtol) made by Kodak which is I believe vitamin C based, and it's a very good developer.
It would be interesting to know if the caffeine in the red bull is making a significant contribution I guess, otherwise the jagerbomb isn't really doing that much I think.
it's unfortunate that you can develop film even with something like coffee, but for the fixing step there aren't any similarly "not purely chemical" options
Everything is chemicals after all. We’re made of them!
Do you think the quotations were just for show?
Maybe if you’d put them on “chemical” instead of “not purely chemical” you wouldn’t have ended up with the need to act passive aggressively ;)
> Developing black-and-white film with coffee is a better option for younger analog photographers. As a bonus, it should smell better.
I've made Caffenol in the past. It stinks.
Looks like the source the article is based around is https://www.diyphotography.net/develop-film-at-home-with-a-j..., which itself is a write-up of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_Oja2mpYqg.
Can U still drink the Jägerbomb after developing?
You really shouldn't. The colloidal silver probably isn't that harmful in small quantities, Jäger's just herbs, but there's some really nasty chemicals in those energy drinks.
The absolute lack of self awareness, putting the danger on the energy drinks when Jägermeister contains something infinitely more dangerous than anything Red bull will ever put into their drinks.
Did you forget that alcohol is a drug, and a dangerous and destructive one at that?
That's usually my go-to when discussing supposedly dangerous chemicals.
There are some controversies regarding, for example: glyphosate, aspartame, food preservatives, microplastics, etc... For all of them you are going to find studies showing some toxicity, usually at doses much higher than what we consume, and people get up in arms about them. But then, look at alcohol, where toxicity is proven without a doubt, it is also a group 1 carcinogen, the highest rating, and we drink it as if it was nothing. It puts things into perspective.
I am not saying that it is good to have glyphosate or microplastics in your food, and the problem goes beyond toxicity, but the idea is that if you worry about your health by consuming things that are deemed safe to eat by the health authorities and you are still drinking alcohol, maybe that you should get your priorities straight.
I am not saying "don't drink alcohol". In moderation, it is no that bad, but then, you probably shouldn't worry too much about the other stuff. Of course, you may refuse to support, say, plastic packaging, and it is a worthy thing to do, but it is more about politics than personal health.
Used wisely, it's a damned good drug.
Absolutely not true.
Aside from it indeed sometimes being true, grow a sense of humor, and calm the puritanical fear mongering a bit. Hundreds of millions of people spend their completely normal, normal-length lives occasionally drinking, socially lubricating themselves and enjoying a gathering with others and a few drinks without ever turning into raging alcoholics or imminent cases of cirrhosis, liver cancer and kidney failure. Billions of people have also done it across the centuries only to live lives of stunningly normal length and healthfulness too. Sometimes the emotional value of enjoying minor pleasures in life, and helping along your social life, balances out to being more healthy than what you'd get by fanatically screening all consumed things for all possible chemical dangers.
Don't get me wrong: I am not blaming anyone for liking alcohol, I have plenty of wine and various liquors, and it's a fun indulgence.
There is no "used wisely" with alcohol. It is destructive from the first drop to the last. It is about one of the worst things you could put in your body. Alcohol gets a free pass because it's socially acceptable, but it is, objectively, dangerous, and every single doctor and research in the world agrees with that.
>every single doctor and research in the world agrees with that.
Not at all the case. There's no shortage of medical debate on the dangers of alcohol and how bad they are. You're either lying or didn't bother to do a 5 minute internet search.
>It is about one of the worst things you could put in your body.
Really now? Since "worst" by definition implies being at or near the top of some ranking of terrible things, You'd rate ethanol in all its blends as near or above all the literally dozens of elemental and untold thousands of chemical substances that you could put into your body (even in very minute quantities) to die within minutes to seconds of doing it even once?
> The absolute lack of self awareness [...] Did you forget that...
I think I forgot that some people have an absolute lack of sarcasm awareness :\
Glad someone is asking the important questions.