20 comments

  • BadBadJellyBean 2 hours ago ago

    I don't even want to read these anymore. The whole climate crisis made me feel so powerless. I try to vote, I try to educate, I try to be vocal but it's all for nothing because ... I'm not even sure. I think it's stupid and greedy people.

  • dr_dshiv 3 hours ago ago

    Happened in Finland too— forests becoming net carbon producers.

    https://www.icos-cp.eu/news-and-events/news/finlands-forests...

    • mc32 7 minutes ago ago

      Isn't there an age-of-tree related curve? Up until XX years they are net producers -afterwards they become sinks.

    • lmc 3 hours ago ago
    • jabl 3 hours ago ago

      Notably, politically the notion of forests as carbon sinks have been a very convenient fig leaf for politicians not wanting to reduce emissions in other parts of society.

      • timr an hour ago ago

        The link you are replying to is explicit that forests are carbon sinks (which is just a scientific fact), and that the change here is due to logging.

        Planting more trees than you cut down is an effective way of offsetting CO2 emissions.

  • Herring 3 hours ago ago

    Humanity being the first species to go extinct because it was more profitable than continued existence.

    • wwweston 3 hours ago ago

      Not so much profit as a particular failure of accounting. Focus on privatization of profit with socialization of costs allows making staggering and possibly fatal costs someone else’s problem.

      • Loughla 2 hours ago ago

        We've turned the tragedy of the commons into an economic practice.

      • echelon_musk 2 hours ago ago

        AKA externalities.

    • BLKNSLVR 2 hours ago ago

      Remind me of the fantastic line:

      "The economy is a wholly owned subsidiary of the environment"

    • phtrivier 3 hours ago ago

      Let's emulate world class leadership from the greatest country on earth, and immediately stop funding those alarmists doomsayers.

      Anyway, I read on HN that AI was about to solve climate change any time now. I'm sure prompting LLMs the right way will harness the world knowledge to generatively hallucinate a way for trees to grow better.

      • BLKNSLVR 2 hours ago ago

        I think Elon is working towards colonizing Mars because once it's all worked out, that's what Earth's environment will be like.

        • kibwen 2 hours ago ago

          Nope, it's Venus that we're racing towards.

    • PaulHoule 3 hours ago ago
  • padjo an hour ago ago

    At a certain zoom level we appear very similar to bacteria that undergoes a population explosion, destroys its host and ultimately dies out.

  • roldie an hour ago ago

    This is really sad to read. Unfortunate that it will likely keep happening as forests disappear, seas acidify, and climate keeps warming. Very scary.

    • timr an hour ago ago

      The change here is due to logging, not some inevitable climate feedback loop. Cut down fewer trees than you grow, and the situation reverses.

      In fact, the natural feedback cycle of increasing CO2 in the atmosphere is for greenery to increase, not decrease.

  • tbrownaw 2 hours ago ago

    They measure/model aboveground biomass, and present the change in that measurement as being a source/sink in the carbon cycle, ie as coming from / going to the atmosphere.

    But I also see multiple places they mention the changes as being at least partly due to logging or wood harvesting. Which seems like biomass being removed and yet not going into the atmosphere.