List of domains censored by German ISPs

(cuiiliste.de)

125 points | by elcapitan 2 hours ago ago

44 comments

  • elcapitan an hour ago ago

    39c3 talk about this tomorrow (in German, but usually available with English translation) https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2025/fahrplan/event/...

  • kn100 26 minutes ago ago

    What a handy list the Germans have prepared

  • Semaphor 2 hours ago ago

    For those wondering: it's DNS blocks, so only affecting those using ISP DNS.

    • maxloh 18 minutes ago ago

      I am curious why SNI-based block isn't used.

      • trinix912 16 minutes ago ago

        Shhh, don’t give them ideas

    • wrboyce 38 minutes ago ago

      Worth mentioning NextDNS and ControlD under this! I migrated from the former to the latter about six months ago, but both are a solid choice.

  • sccxy 2 hours ago ago

    So it is a collection of the best pirate sites?

    • pelagicAustral an hour ago ago

      It is to me, faved.

    • jug an hour ago ago

      Pretty much, yeah. Those they can't get to despite efforts.

      • EbNar an hour ago ago

        Let me write those down, to be sure no to go there by mistake.

  • leonwip an hour ago ago

    But it is not legally required, and at least my smaller German ISP doesn’t seem to care.

    • jillesvangurp 24 minutes ago ago

      I use an o2 DSL connection in Berlin. The domains I tested seem to resolve fine. And you can of course configure an alternate DNS. Which apparently I didn't yet on my new laptop. So, that is fixed now. Mostly that's just a performance fix. Operator DNS tends to be a bit slow to respond and it's nice to get back a few milliseconds. But I also don't mind my operator not spying on me.

      Of course I also use Firefox so mostly that just bypasses the system DNS entirely and uses dns over https.

    • lucb1e 38 minutes ago ago

      Which one is that?

      I would be interested in paying a bit more if the ISP is better. In the Netherlands we always had xs4all, nowadays sorta morphed into freedom internet, which was started from a hacker magazine and kept the spirit, fighting surveillance and censorship while offering regular ISP services and then some. I'm not aware that Germany has such a thing so any step in the right direction would make me switch if I can get it (should be fine if it's available via Telekom's public network, we're currently on a virtual operator as well)

  • croisillon an hour ago ago
  • nonethewiser 2 hours ago ago

    So there are only 295 domains censored? Seems like a lot of them of streaming sights breaking copyright/license agreements. Has to be a small fraction of those such sites alone.

  • zoklet-enjoyer 15 minutes ago ago

    This reminds me of a screenshot I saw where someone told chatgpt they stumbled upon a piracy website and wanted a list of other websites to avoid hahaha

  • wltr 24 minutes ago ago

    I have never visited these kino domains, but I assume that’s just some piracy entity. Yet it’s quite impressive how many various domain names they bought! What for? Is it to avoid those blocks? Or is there any more reasons?

  • on_the_train an hour ago ago

    I know a few more, for example demonoid. This list is just a sunset. Inb4 "actually it's not Germany censoring. It's the ISPs"

    • deejaaymac 34 minutes ago ago

      I thought demonoid was dead dead?

  • jstummbillig an hour ago ago

    And now I am really interested in what Anna might have in that archive of her's

  • jug an hour ago ago

    Honestly makes it look like legislation with "sponsorship" from the film industry. I had expected much shadier stuff or those overrun with malware to protect users, not like 90% illicit streaming.

    • baby_souffle an hour ago ago

      > or those overrun with malware to protect users

      The anti-malware companies won't lobby government to block malware as that would cut into sales of their anti virus/malware.

    • carpenecopinum an hour ago ago

      There is no legislation here. CUII is a private organization that generates lists of domains that contain copyright violations. ISPs voluntarily choose to block those.

      • like_any_other 7 minutes ago ago

        Voluntarily under threat of prosecution under existing legislation if they don't.

  • lifestyleguru 2 hours ago ago

    Germans are mostly chill but if you start torrenting copyrighed content or even watching illegal streaming they will eat your face and drink your warm blood.

    • tirant an hour ago ago

      I knew about torrenting, due to the problem of redistributing copyright material. But pure streaming? Are you sure that is illegal in Germany?

      • p2detar an hour ago ago

        No, it’s not. Friend of mine was doing it on regular basis and only stopped because he got Amazon Prime subscription and didn’t need to anymore.

        • lifestyleguru 42 minutes ago ago

          There were attempts at legal bullying, but mostly with aim to humiliate the victim as the correspondence contains the full titles of porn videos.

    • lysace 37 minutes ago ago

      German Wikipedia was taken down twice (for "privacy", not piracy though). Still "illegal information". In the latter case about a former Stasi worker turned leftist member of parliament.

      https://www.theregister.com/2006/01/20/wikipedia_shutdown/

      The German Wikipedia site was taken down by court order this week because it mentioned the full name of a deceased Chaos Computer Club hacker, known as Tron. A Berlin court ordered the closure of the site on Tuesday after it sided with the parents of the German hacker, who wanted to prevent the online encyclopedia from publishing the real name of their son. A final ruling is expected in two weeks' time.

      https://web.archive.org/web/20090129160045/https://cyberlaw....

      By virtue of an interim injunction ordered by the Lübeck state court dated November 13, 2008, upon the request of Lutz Heilmann (Member of Parliament – “Die Linke” party), Wikipedia Germany is hereby enjoined from continuing linking from the Internet address wikipedia.de to the Internet address de.wikipedia.org, as long as under the address de.wikipedia.org certain propositions concerning Lutz Heilmann remain visible.

      • lifestyleguru 31 minutes ago ago

        Sometimes it feels that the only reason for German "privacy laws" are former Nazi and Stasi officials hiding their past.

    • xg15 an hour ago ago

      German authorities, not Germans.

    • mikigraf an hour ago ago

      Germans yes, the gov with their over-regulation not

  • nik282000 an hour ago ago

    Anna's Archive and Sci-Hub. So despite their facade the German government is just as draconian as the US.

    • fuzzy2 an hour ago ago

      The government or even courts are not involved with these blocks.

    • dewey an hour ago ago

      The main complaint about these blocks is that they are managed and decided on by private companies and _not_ by the government / law.

    • crazygringo an hour ago ago

      Despite what facade?

      • easterncalculus an hour ago ago

        The frequently repeated keystone lie that Europeans have equivalent or greater rights, freedoms, and protection from authoritarianism than Americans, which is and has always been objectively and completely false.

        • oezi 7 minutes ago ago

          Well according to press freedom indices many European countries and the US are quite similarly ranked. Some countries better some countries worse.

          Some countries have stronger institutions against dictatorships than others but unfortunately we have seen that even the US isn't immune and that slides auch as in Poland and Hungary are possible.

          There is always hope that things can turn around (as in Poland even though the road is hard and there are setbacks)

        • cedilla 29 minutes ago ago

          Well, when fascists are in power, paper won't help anyone. But at this point, as a European I enjoy enumerated human and civil rights from multiple constitutions and several international treaties, which are directly enforceable by courts at the state, national, and European level.

          The human and civil rights guaranteed by the US constitution are a complete joke in comparison, and most of them are not guaranteed directly constitution, but by Supreme Court interpretation of vague 18th century law that can change at any time.

    • oezi 12 minutes ago ago

      Is it draconian that piracy sites aren't resolved by some ISPs' DNS?

      Is it draconian if no Government entity is involved? And the penalty is unavailability?

      I thought draconian implies that the punishment is much too high in relationship to the crime.

      Maybe it is more dystopian rather than draconian.

    • almostgotcaught 39 minutes ago ago

      > German government is just as draconian as the US

      this is called "disinformation"

      • trelane 16 minutes ago ago

        I honestly cannot tell if this is serious, or irony, or even meta-irony.