22 comments

  • zihotki an hour ago ago

    The problem is that they're useless during winter in Ukrain. There is barely any energy generated between November and March. And heatpump won't work during frequent outages. Nice but kinda useless gesture

    • mothballed 25 minutes ago ago

      What's the best option? Diesel heaters? Firewood / wood stoves? Probably they are things Greenpeace doesn't like.

    • nutjob2 an hour ago ago

      Heat pumps work fine on batteries. The better solution is extensive battery storage and (intermittent) grid power, under the circumstances.

      • ZeroGravitas 37 minutes ago ago

        They mention large hot water stores which are cheaper and simpler than batteries for storing heat, at least for now.

  • Kuinox 2 hours ago ago

    Green Planet Energy, have been greenwashing fossil gas, especially russian gas, for years.

    • willis936 2 hours ago ago

      My first thought was "Greenpeace, the fossil fuel mouthpiece that killed the nuclear industry?"

      I'm not sure why I'd care about news related to them that wasn't their dismantling.

      • pjc50 20 minutes ago ago

        Greenpeace got their start against nuclear weapons and nuclear waste dumping at sea.

        I don't think it's entirely appropriate to ignore the risks of nuclear in the country that contains Chernobyl, and another different nuclear plant which is quite close to the front lines and was shut down by capture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaporizhzhia_Nuclear_Power_Pla...

      • Kuinox 2 hours ago ago

        From greenwashing to ethic washing, they are sure good at washing.

  • piokoch an hour ago ago

    How solar can help Ukraine now? When there weather is foggy, cloudy? How heap pump can help if there are electricity outages?

  • woodpanel 2 hours ago ago

    These guys...

    after decades of destroying nuclear, German energy independence and thus pegging German energy sourcing to Russian pipelines, resulting in the geopolitical mess we and Ukraine are in – to have the gall to even pretend they're doing any good here...

    • lysium an hour ago ago

      What are you talking about? Germany would be more energy independent if it had adopted solar and wind power when Greenpeace was advocating it fourty years ago, like China is showcasing today!

      • lnsru 36 minutes ago ago

        The question is not if renewables can replace nuclear. Obviously it is technically possible. The question is how many times bigger should be installed peak power of renewables. 20x? 50x? And of course if it’s economically viable. Because China does not gamble with renewables. They build nuclear capacity at unprecedented levels.

      • ekianjo 33 minutes ago ago

        They would depend on china instead of Russia. huge improvement! /s

        • Xylakant a minute ago ago

          There is a significant difference in term of dependency when it comes to solar vs gas/oil. Solar panels are not consumables when int comes to energy production- oil and gas are. China can shutdown the supply of solar panels, but not the energy generation with existing panels. This gives you time to start building other supply channels.

  • newsclues 2 hours ago ago

    Solar seems vulnerable in a war.

    • NicuCalcea 35 minutes ago ago

      Compared to what? Gas, nuclear and hydro seem even more vulnerable.

      • mothballed 21 minutes ago ago

        Off grid people ~dont heat off solar. They use hydrocarbons for heat sources. Or wood.

        Heat vastly increases solar generation and battery demand.

    • Mashimo an hour ago ago

      Solar + battery helps against shorter blackouts, to at least keep your freezer and fridge running. All while they repair the grid.

    • iso1631 2 hours ago ago

      If you have solar on your roof and a bomb hits it, you have no power. And no roof. Power is the least of your problems.

      If you have a central power nuclear/gas/coal station and a bomb hits it, nobody has power.

      • ekianjo 30 minutes ago ago

        The grid never relies on a single source

      • woodpanel 2 hours ago ago

        > If you have a central power nuclear/gas/coal station and a bomb hits it, nobody has power.

        if that happens it can be repaired more economically and faster – as has been repeatedly shown in Ukraine.

        • kilington an hour ago ago

          I think we need to look harder at the concept of survivor bias and what it doesn't mean for future chance if anyone believes Ukraine nuclear power stations suffering damage as routinely as any other physical asset would have been OK.